Local Businesses
Weather & Tides
Monday - Light Cloud
Minimum: 2C, Wind Direction: North Easterly
Wind: Moderate 28mph, Pressure: 1011mb, Sunset: 18:20 GMT
Tuesday - Light Cloud
Maximum: 8C, Minimum: 4C
Wind: 18mph North North Easterly, Visibility: Very Good, Pollution: Low, Sunrise: 06:13 GMT, Sunset: 18:21 GMT
Wednesday - Sunny
Maximum: 8C, Minimum: 6C
Wind: 8mph North North Westerly, Visibility: Very Good, Pollution: Low, Sunrise: 06:11 GMT, Sunset: 18:23 GMT
Mon 19 Mar
Tue 20 Mar
Wed 21 Mar
Thu 22 Mar
Fri 23 Mar
Sat 24 Mar
Sun 25 Mar
The tidal data is for Braye
The third largest Channel Island, Alderney is one of the rare unspoiled corners of Britain. With a population of a little under two and a half thousand, its reputation as a peaceful, relaxing getaway is matched only by the locals’ reputation for warm welcomes and traditional jovial hospitality. Easily explored by foot the fascinating and beautiful Island is only one and a half miles wide by three and a half miles long and boasts a mild comfortable climate.

Like its neighbours, Guernsey and Jersey, Alderney is independently governed, but unlike the larger islands, and despite its proximity to mainland France (10 miles west of Normandy), it remains more or less entirely free from mainstream tourism. Remote as Alderney may be it is surprisingly easy to visit as it has its own harbour and airport with direct scheduled flights to and from the UK.

Alderney, one of Britain’s best-kept secrets.

For more information on businesses and services in Alderney please use the Marine Services, Pilot notes + charts, Marinas, Food and Drink and Accommodation buttons at the top of this page. For a more in-depth search use our "Blue Pages" Business Directory.
Comments (59)
19/03/2018 @ 11:34 am
Ben Laura & Family
Sailing the Channel Islands this summer for the first time. Alderney is on our agenda. We are not that familiar with these islands and they look quite challenging to sail around. Is there anything I should be especially looking out for, perils etc.
We have the pilot books etc. and have sailed for many years, but in the Med where the tide is non existent.
16/02/2017 @ 11:27 pm
Fredric Orlando
I see you are updating your Channel Islands Harbour Guides. I have friends from Northern France who are sailing to Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney, Sark etc. this Summer. We are going to visit them and help out crewing etc. but dont want to stay on the boat full time and are looking for accommodation. I see you have an accommodation feature on Harbourguides, is this for holiday makers or for crew members? We are on a tight budget and I think a feature on budget price hotels on your guides would be a goods idea.
11/06/2016 @ 2:45 pm
Shaun and Donna Beverley
Planning our second honeymoon and are sailing around this beautiful island on our Beneteau 57. Love the information you provide. Very easy to use and no un-comprehensible nautical terms that are used on some other sailing sites.
10/06/2016 @ 11:16 am
Sheila Burn
Arriving here in August. Just going through your guide now planning our trip. Great fun and great website.
18/03/2016 @ 12:40 pm
Gemma and Colin (Far Horizons)
Love this Island, coming back in June this year, first time in 8 years. Cant wait
11/12/2014 @ 8:59 am
Paul Harbour Guides Crew
New french restaurant called Le Pesked in town, excellent.
Sampled chicken liver parfait, mulled wine jelly, with red onion chutney.
The chef chowder chorizo, with harricot beans and coriander and ended
with apple tart with toffee ice cream.
A welcome addition to the island.
08/11/2014 @ 7:51 am
The Georgian House is a lovely delightful place.
06/11/2014 @ 5:39 am
The James's
Never had a bad meal at Bray Beach, and will continue to eat there as long as it is there.
05/11/2014 @ 10:45 pm
The James's
Never had a bad meal at Bray Beach, and will continue to eat there as long as it is there.
28/10/2014 @ 7:47 am
Do not be put off by the size of Mainbrayce, they are very efficient.
11/10/2014 @ 10:33 am
Marianne Yorkshire
Smoked haddock fish cakes at Georgian House as a main at lunch was good.
10/10/2014 @ 10:01 am
Murray Johnson
Bray Beach Hotel is still beautiful, even at this time of year.
10/10/2014 @ 9:38 am
Murray Johnson
Bray Beach Hotel is still beautiful, even at this time of year.
05/10/2014 @ 9:43 am
The book shop is actually called The Bookshop and if you get a chance try to pop in and have a ganders, it's a cracking little shop and as always could do with all the help it can get.
05/10/2014 @ 9:28 am
Coronation Inn was a friendly sight for sore eyes(due to the rain)the other night, nice and friendly.
05/10/2014 @ 9:09 am
The Procrastinators
We had been to Alderney on numerous occasions but always swerved The Brae Beach for one reason or another, but this time mainly due to the bad weather ate there and realised how foolish we had been.
Food was delicious and prices were not as batty as we had always thought.
Happy days.
02/10/2014 @ 10:21 am
Did Alderney pub crawl recently and have decided Rae's is the best on the island.
01/10/2014 @ 9:33 pm
Nellie Gray's does a good indian takeaway( up the hill away from harbour)
I think you will be able to find it, but don't blame me if you get lost.
20/09/2014 @ 7:35 am
We think Rae deserves a medal for everything he provides and puts up with at ( Rae's Bistro ) good on ya mate.
11/09/2014 @ 12:22 am
Peter, Sue
Back on board now, been swimming in the harbour and drinking at Diver's and Rae's, probably not the brightest of ideas but we made it.
29/08/2014 @ 8:45 am
Really enjoyed our stay on Alderney recently and The Braye Beach where we stayed.
16/08/2014 @ 8:33 am
Rae's is good for food, drink, and looking out over harbour.
15/08/2014 @ 8:35 am
Margo, Sue, and Jo
Lunch at Georgian House for our first time recently was great.
Returning in future for sure.
14/08/2014 @ 9:25 am
Saw the comment from Charles on 02/08/14 about Nellie Gray's Restaurant being only Indian here, found it, loved it.
14/08/2014 @ 9:25 am
Saw the comment from Charles on 02/08/14 about Nellie Gray's Restaurant being only Indian here, found it, loved it.
13/08/2014 @ 7:25 am
Deirdrie Stanton
If this is your first visit to the Island, get yourself up to the Belle Vue for afternoon tea and one of the best views on the Island.
06/08/2014 @ 3:36 pm
Spent a fortune sitting outside Rae's the other day, but was well worth it.
04/08/2014 @ 6:19 pm
Pat and Tony Robson
Great night, Divers to begin with, then on to Rae's. Then not too sure. Anyway it was good
30/07/2014 @ 9:13 am
Wendy and Brian
Love your Harbour Guide and found it very useful during our visit to Alderney. Its nice to use a marine orientated website that makes things simple and uses normal language instead of yachting terms all the time. Not all us boat owners understand all the jargon. Adding restaurants, bars, shops, and things to do, really has made it a valuable holiday guide for us.
Keep up the good work
24/06/2014 @ 12:43 pm
Jackson family
Love this island, and found your guide extremely helpful in finding things to do, places to eat, and of course marine services etc. After talking to other yachtsmen, it seems you are getting a cult following, as you differ from other marine guides, as you give an all round impression of each harbour you compile your guides to.For this I complement you, and encourage you to keep up the god work, as it really is appreciated.
Terry, Janet, Zoe and Chez.
27/11/2013 @ 8:32 am
Ingred was very nice and helpful at St. Annes guest house.
17/11/2013 @ 10:51 am
Rufus and entourage
Had a bit of a knees up at Rae's last night, a little bit worse for wear today but i would imagine a little visit back to find my hat may be the order of the day before we leave weather permitting.
16/10/2013 @ 8:43 am
I love Alderney , beautiful beaches and friendly people.
Fist time here , used your food guide quite a lot. Keep up the good work.
07/10/2013 @ 8:56 am
Georgian House tea in back garden is Worth the walk up the hill.
If not into walking rent electric bike from garage in harbour.
21/08/2013 @ 8:08 am
Rae's Bistro still brilliant!!
19/08/2013 @ 7:23 am
Alice and Sam
Just arrived here on Bumble Bee Boat, very pleased to see this Service is doing so well. Thanks.
02/08/2013 @ 8:40 am
Nellie Grays is the only indian restaurant on this rock, but is well Worth a visit.
01/08/2013 @ 6:00 am
Grace & Sally
We stayed at the Braye Beach hotel and found it to be superb!! The staff were very attentive, courteous and polite. It certainly didnt lack atmosphere, and we have already booked in for our next visit.
31/07/2013 @ 10:55 am
Alderney lover
Great hotel - run by a Mother (Pauline) and daughter team (Tracey) who are very friendly and have been in the business for 39 years and know how to look after you !
Fabulous food with an ever changing specials menu. Seemed to be busy with locals - always a good sign.
We had the jacuzzi suite as it was our wedding anniversary. Lush room and great big enough for two jacuzzi.
Hubby loved the real ales on offer.
Would we stay again ??? Yes definately much nicer than The Braye Beach it had atmosphere !!
31/07/2013 @ 10:20 am
Spent the day at Rae's. The food was excellent. The staff was extrordinary! The views were superb. Make sure to make this a part of your Alderney experience.
31/07/2013 @ 9:44 am
Harbourguides Crew
Thanks Mark and Jules. We will amend Alderney Accommodation contact details right away.
31/07/2013 @ 9:20 am
Mark & Jules
Thank you to our lovely son Peter for booking and paying for our break in Alderney, and a big thank you to Nicci & Nina at Alderney Accommodation for finding us the perfect place.
Thank you All. We absolutely loved it.
PS Alderney Accommodation have changed their address from the one that is advertised on your site.
23/07/2013 @ 7:25 am
Cruising crew
Had a fantastic week of sunshine and fun on this beautiful island and found your guide a fabulous source of information.What a great idea, Thanks.
17/07/2013 @ 8:36 am
Another good evening at Super duper Ae's,keep on trucking.
08/07/2013 @ 9:03 am
Another good night at Rae's last night
01/06/2013 @ 11:06 am
Barry and Anne
Went over to Alderney last week on Bumble bee boat, had a great time due to the fact we hired ELECTRIC BIKES from Auto Motion just in the harbour at petrol station. [Call ahead ] well worth it for getting up the hill into town.
26/04/2013 @ 12:21 pm
Sol and Crew
Fantastic time at Braye Beach Hotel...Thanks guys xx
12/11/2012 @ 4:12 pm
alderney was realy fun we all ate at harbour lights
12/11/2012 @ 4:10 pm
I love alderney

Yum Yum!!!
01/10/2012 @ 8:17 am
Big thanks to Annie for opening shop on Sunday before I got boat.Thanks again Annie.
07/09/2012 @ 5:37 pm
Excellent food and friendly staff.Only stayed for the day,glad we found it,thanks.
11/08/2012 @ 8:12 am
Ventura Crew
Harbour Lights hotel,quite new to island but nice and hospitable.Book early to avoid dissapointment.
14/06/2012 @ 1:19 pm
Harbourguides Crew
Hi Jane & Steve..Glad to hear that Mainbrayce looked after you, we have had quite a few people emails from people informing us that they have been pleased with the service that they have offered.
14/06/2012 @ 12:23 pm
Jane & Steve - Nomadic Star
We would like to thank Mainbrayce for delivering some diesel to us while we were moored in the harbour during a Force 8 Gale - definitely service above and beyond.

Lovely island, nice people although the hills are a killer on bike - especially when sitting on a hard cockpit seat during the sail home.
18/11/2011 @ 5:54 pm

I read on your website that you're going to update the Alderney PDF. We will be visiting next year, so would like to get the most recent info when available. Could you let me know when to check your website again for this?


19/09/2011 @ 6:39 pm
Hi Bob
Thanks for letting us know about Europcar in Alderney. We will delete this service from our database. Alderney is due to be updated early next year, and as we have well over five thousand advertisers with us it’s difficult to find out when one is no longer in service if the company don’t contact us to let us know. The good news however is that we have so many visits to our site that someone like yourself usually informs us if a business or service is no longer available.
We will replace the vacant “Car Hire” service with an appropriate one once we have completed our update.
So thanks for informing us.
19/09/2011 @ 6:29 pm

Your website ( advertises Europcar but the number is unobtainable and upon further enquiries it appears that Europcar no longer operates in Alderney.

It might be an good idea to update your website.

13/02/2011 @ 5:11 pm
Just like to say thanks to the owners of Mainbrayce for supplying us with the parts we THANKS
12/02/2011 @ 12:45 pm
Rob n Jackie
Had a fab meal at the St Annes Brasserie, can definitely recommend it.Thanks Mat
Add Your Comment
Business Reviews (70)
04/09/2017 @ 10:05 am
Le Pesked Restaurant by HG Crew
Yes George and Gina. To the best of our knowledge the restaurant is very much open and still serving excellent food.
04/09/2017 @ 10:00 am
The Georgian House by Sarah and Tony Dickinson
Fantastic food. Very generous helpings and the fish that Tony had was the size of Moby Dick. Tasted much nicer though.
04/09/2017 @ 9:56 am
Mainbrayce Ltd. by Trevor Chadwick
Hoping Mainbraice is still open. Coming to Alderney on the 11th. Just tried the link to the website and its gone to a webcam? Surely its still trading? would be a very sad loss to Alderney if not. Can you let me know if Michael is still there?
04/09/2017 @ 9:50 am
Visit Alderney by Greg Turner
Nice easy website to use. Easily found a lovely little retreat.
04/09/2017 @ 9:47 am
Alderney Accommodation by Sarah & Dean McMormac
Sorted the family out with Temperary accommodation. Good service.
04/09/2017 @ 9:29 am
Alderney Farm Shop by Sarah & Neil Loughran
Great find, Perfect place to stock up with provisins, or get a full meal. Lovely food and produce.
13/08/2017 @ 2:15 am
The Georgian House by Fran and Dave Charnley
Thanks for a fantastic night on Friday. Everything was perfect. Got great footage of the firework display.
11/08/2017 @ 12:21 am
The Divers Inn by Pam and Rae
Completely different feel to the hotel, but equally as good. more of a locals place, but the locals are pretty cool, so all good. will definitely come back on our next trip.
11/08/2017 @ 12:18 am
Braye Beach Hotel by Tony De-Ath and family
Took Saras advice and so glad we did. Loved every minute of it here.
11/08/2017 @ 12:16 am
Le Pesked Restaurant by George and Gina Carleton
Arriving at end of August, is the restaurant open now?
11/08/2017 @ 12:13 am
Nellie Grays Restaurant by Josh and Fran
Cant wait to bring Pam and Ray here in September. Hope the food is as spicy and tasty as ever..
11/08/2017 @ 12:10 am
Braye Beach Hotel by Pam and Rae
Wow, Blast from the past! Just planning our trip, great to see you on here. looking forward to some more great food and drinks! Cheersxx
18/02/2017 @ 4:27 pm
Nellie Grays Restaurant by Jill & Simon
Nice walk up from the harbour. Fantastic meal and then walk it off back to the boat. Couldn't be better!
18/02/2017 @ 1:01 pm
Le Pesked Restaurant by Brenda Clarkson
When is the restaurant opening again?
18/02/2017 @ 12:59 pm
Bell & Co Ltd by Helen & Carl(Yacht Dolphin)
A quite agree Peter and Julie. we always comment on restaurants and hotels, etc. but yes other businesses that offer a good service should have their fair share of comments. I think its that people are used to commenting on Restaurants and hotels on tripadviser and therefor feel obliged to comment on other guides also. So a big shout out to Bell and Co for offering a great service!!
18/02/2017 @ 12:55 pm
Mainbrayce Ltd. by Helen & Carl(Yacht Dolphin)
A fantastic asset to Alderney. Well stocked and very willing to help without just trying to sell you something. Wish more Chandlers would follow suit.
14/01/2017 @ 10:35 am
Le Pesked Restaurant by Dez and crew
Great place Great food and Great staff!!
01/10/2016 @ 4:25 pm
Le Pesked Restaurant by peterbutts@tiscali
They say that the the staff are very efficient and pleasant especially the Thai lady
26/09/2016 @ 4:52 pm
The Georgian House by Sarah Greenhouse
Lovely location and great breakfast
26/09/2016 @ 4:48 pm
Braye Beach Hotel by Sarah Greenhouse
My favourite restaurant and hotel on Alderney. Cant wait to come back with the family again
26/09/2016 @ 4:47 pm
Braye Beach Hotel by Sarah Greenhouse
My favourite restaurant and hotel on Alderney. Cant wait to come back with the family again
26/09/2016 @ 4:43 pm
Nellie Grays Restaurant by Sarah Greenhouse
Great Indian restaurant.
26/09/2016 @ 4:40 pm
Le Pesked Restaurant by Sarah Greenhouse
Recently returned from Alderney and thoroughly enjoyed our meal here.
28/07/2016 @ 8:22 pm
Le Pesked Restaurant by Sarah Gouldstein
Yes its still open and every bit as good as ever. We were there earlier this year and had a fantastic meal.
19/06/2016 @ 1:23 am
Bell & Co Ltd by Peter and Julie
I have noticed that most of the comments on your website seem to be aimed at restaurants and hotels, rather than the general services. I would like to point out that Bell & Co made our move to Alderney very smooth and simple. Great advice and service.
19/06/2016 @ 1:17 am
Alderney Farm Shop by Sharon and Chris Webb
Need any provisions for the next trip? This place has everything. Perfect for on board cooking.
19/06/2016 @ 1:15 am
The Bookshop by Barry Singleton
Great find on Alderney. Annie very helpful and informative..Thanks got plenty to read on the next crossing.
19/06/2016 @ 1:12 am
Mainbrayce Ltd. by Chris and Andrea Yacht Dolphin
Very helpful and informative service. Well stocked chandlers.
19/06/2016 @ 1:10 am
The Georgian House by Gaz and Nic
Love this place, lovely food and chilled out atmosphere!
19/06/2016 @ 1:08 am
Nellie Grays Restaurant by Sharon and Mat Arcus
The best Indian in the Channel Islands.
19/06/2016 @ 1:06 am
Le Pesked Restaurant by Adam & Kimbo
Is Le Pesked Restaurant still open? We are over this August and the website is down. or have you not updated your guide? Any info please
19/06/2016 @ 1:03 am
Auto-Motion by Ben and Courtney
If your coming to Alderney, get a bike and get one from here.
19/06/2016 @ 12:49 am
Visit Alderney by Sharon and Mat Arcus
Love this island, fantastic getaway place with enough going on, but plenty of privacy too. x
11/06/2016 @ 2:37 pm
The Divers Inn by Thomas Ferrington
Is the Divers still open? There is only a link to a Facebook page on this site and it hasnt been updated for some time. We are arriving in Alderney in July and we usually frequent the Divers. Just interested to know
11/06/2016 @ 2:33 pm
Coronation Inn by John Mcgeaver and crew
We were last here in 2014 and are returning this summer. Great to see this place is still open. we will be sinking a few in here in August. Get stocked up!!!!
11/06/2016 @ 2:30 pm
Mainbrayce Ltd. by Sheila and Steve
Very helpful with good advice. we have no hesitation in recommending Mainbrayce.
21/03/2016 @ 2:11 pm
Braye Beach Hotel by Kim and Adam
Great to see the Braye Beach Hotel on here. Have some very fond memories of the place and hope to return this Summer
21/03/2016 @ 2:10 pm
Braye Beach Hotel by Kim and Adam
Great to see the Braye Beach Hotel on here. Have some very fond memories of the place and hope to return this Summer
15/12/2014 @ 9:30 am
Alderney Farm Shop by Paul H.G.Crew
This shop has everything, veg,meat, and its own chef who pre-cooks meals to takeaway or can be delivered for free.Amazing.
15/12/2014 @ 9:07 am
Alderney Farm Shop by Paul H.G.Crew
This shop has everything, veg,meat, and its own chef who pre-cooks meals to takeaway or can be delivered for free.Amazing.
15/12/2014 @ 8:46 am
Le Pesked Restaurant by Paul
Welcome addition to Alderney, absolutely delicious.
05/11/2014 @ 10:41 pm
Braye Beach Hotel by The James's
Had a great meal, and was taken care of properly on our last visit.
02/11/2014 @ 7:50 am
Braye Beach Hotel by Helen and Troy
All the food in the harbour was good, but we thought this was the best.
30/10/2014 @ 9:16 pm
Braye Beach Hotel by Sal
Amazing views of the beach, just like in the pictures.
28/10/2014 @ 7:44 am
Mainbrayce Ltd. by BJ
Small but good, and can sort out most problems.
05/10/2014 @ 9:33 am
The Bookshop by Jules
Cracking little shop, not many of them left like this one.
05/10/2014 @ 9:23 am
Coronation Inn by Richard
A welcome light amidst the fog, lifesaver.
05/10/2014 @ 9:00 am
Braye Beach Hotel by The Procrastinators
Whenever we come to Alderney we tend to eat in 'town' but this time we decided to push the boat out and try The Brae Beach restaurant.
One of the best decisions we have ever made, it was delicious and believe it or not wasn't over the top price wise.
So if you have always wondered but never tried, give it a go.
01/10/2014 @ 9:27 pm
Nellie Grays Restaurant by Tom
Me, myself and I purchased a takeaway this evening and demolished the lot, and that is unusual for me.
So based on that try it out if you are on a short visit, it's up the hill from harbour but worth the walk.
29/08/2014 @ 8:39 am
Braye Beach Hotel by The Ozzy's
Really enjoyed our stay here.
Thanks again.
24/08/2014 @ 8:07 am
Auto-Motion by miguel Pirtugal
Think i William buy one of these eléctrico bikes sionista.
15/08/2014 @ 8:32 am
The Georgian House by Margo, Sue, and Jo
Had a few days in Alderney recently and came here for lunch, first time but we had the best time and will be returning in the future.
14/08/2014 @ 9:21 am
Nellie Grays Restaurant by Partridges
Do not be thrown off by the name, this is an Indian Restaurant and is a very good one( you can still get tea in the daytime) .
07/08/2014 @ 8:44 am
Auto-Motion by James's
Have been coming here for years, but these electric bikes are a gift from god.
Cannot remember how we managed before.
05/08/2014 @ 9:13 am
The Georgian House by The Edwards
We have been staying here for years, and still love it as much as the first time.
Keep up the good work.
31/07/2014 @ 8:10 am
The Divers Inn by Rob
What a cosy bar this is, very poular with locals and Divers.!!
31/07/2014 @ 7:03 am
Auto-Motion by Johnsons
Absolutely brilliant time on the bikes, perfect for Alderney.
Keep up the good work.
30/07/2014 @ 9:07 am
Mainbrayce Ltd. by Wendy and Brian
Extremely helpful and efficient.
18/07/2014 @ 9:57 am
The Alderney Museum by Jim
Very informative, and a nice way to while away a couple of hours.
Learnt quite a bit about the island and the sunken cannons.
13/07/2014 @ 8:33 am
Nellie Grays Restaurant by John Halifax
Never thought I would find an Indian on Alderney, but thanks to you we did and had a memorable meal last night. Thanks
10/07/2014 @ 5:32 am
Mainbrayce Ltd. by SANRAME GUY
can you tell me the price of diesel today please revet by email
06/07/2014 @ 10:55 am
Alderney Accommodation by Sue
Great properties, all over the place.
Thinking of moving here, the girls were very helpful.
04/07/2014 @ 12:16 pm
Alderney Accommodation by Sue
Great properties, all over the place.
Thinking of moving here, the girls were very helpful.
01/07/2014 @ 8:24 am
The Bookshop by Hillary
Amazing shop, who would of thought you would find a book shop here.
25/06/2014 @ 8:10 am
Braye Beach Hotel by The Greens
Still one of the best restaurants on Alderney, service a little down on last time though.
22/06/2014 @ 7:29 am
Coronation Inn by Captain Jon and crew
Nice pub and just found out about the take out service, we would have been goosed otherwise.
16/06/2014 @ 9:17 am
Auto-Motion by The Rogers
This was our fist experience on Alderney and Electric cycling, magnificent.
05/06/2014 @ 8:39 am
Nellie Grays Restaurant by The Williams
Still as good as ever, been coming here for years.
30/05/2014 @ 9:29 am
Mainbrayce Ltd. by Apple Crew
Great service from this well knowledgeable company. Very helpful in a wide range of marine services. Would definitely use again.
01/10/2012 @ 8:26 am
The Bookshop by Paul
Excellent service, even opened the shop on Sunday so I could buy 'The Devils Rock' book before boat left.Would like to point out DEVILS ROCK is abook about Alderney,and can only be purchased there. Thanks again Annie.
Click here to visit our sponsorClick here to visit our sponsorClick here to visit our sponsorClick here to visit our sponsorClick here to visit our sponsorClick here to visit our sponsorClick here to visit our sponsorClick here to visit our sponsorClick here to visit our sponsorClick here to visit our sponsor